CONV: Q&A with Martin Bashir of "Nightline"
SAJA Convention attendees packed Columbia's Roone Arledge Cinema on a Saturday morning to hear famed documentary maker and current co-host of ABC's Nightline, Martin Bashir speak about the challenges and advantages of being an outsider looking into the lives of very public personas.
photos by Preston Merchant
Bashir spoke at length about his "outsider" upbringing in an uneducated, lower class immigrant family. Bashir's parents, both from Pakistan, came to Great Britain in 1951. While describing his professional life, he urged listeners to embrace their "otherness" and use it to enhance truth-telling.
"Cultural identity is significant in the way we practice our impartiality," he said. "Insiders come with assumptions and business as usual while outsiders have a clarity of vision and innovation."
Bashir made a name for himself when he was the only reporter to ever interview the late Princess Diana of Wales. He stirred up more controversy when Victor Conte to admit to doping up athletes. He may be best known, however, for his documentary on Michael Jackson, in which Jackson's bizarre behavior and affection for children opened a slew of investigations.
He did acknowledge, however, that his prestige may not have yet crossed the English Channel yet, referring to himself as "low on the pecking order" at ABC, where he still doesn't have access to the biggest and best assignments yet.
"I can't do the fake American thing," he laughed. "I can't do the smiles."
SAJAforum's Sadia Latifi got to sit down with Bashir before his keynote address.
You've been able to get the most intimate details out of the most public of personas. What's your process in getting people to trust you?
I have a psychiatrist friend who has a theory about me. He said that he thinks that I have two things: first of all, he thinks that I'm not judgmental so that when I am talking to somebody I tend not to approach them with the preconception of baggage. And, I have an unquenchable curiosity. If you are genuinely interested and not prejudgmental, for many people it comes as an enormous relief because they're so used to being perceived and being understood in a particular way. One of the things that I think probably impressed [Michael] Jackson was the fact that I taught myself to play bass from his Thriller album - I learned the bass line of "Billie Jean" in order to learn how to play the bass. I knew almost all the lyrics of all his songs because I love them, and I think it was probably unusual for him to meet someone who is both a so-called journalist and also a huge fan of his.
I didn’t have the cultural background that many people from educated families come with and I think that does have an effect.
You spend a lot of time with the personalities you document. What are your ethical boundaries as an investigative reporter? Are you friends with the people you interview?
You Can't Be. This is why there’s a problem. What happens is you
engage and your sole concern is to tell the truth, and the truth isn’t
liked when it comes out. In terms of the way we handle some of these
people, I think it would be harsher in Britain. There are a number
of interviews that I have seen here which would be slammed in Britain
as being inadequate or lacking discipline or a level of interrogation.
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