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January 06, 2008

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its too early to blow trumpet about India being the next education power. Lets fix our primary education system first so that every kid gets an opportunity to learn and then start offering lessons to others..

Hi,
It's nothing special about it, if we consider our true potential. From centuries India is the seat of knowledge and wisdom of world. Only British rule faded it for a while. Now we are again back to the field. This is just one such instance. Read my article about this topic on http://vidya.ravisblognet.com

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I thank the Indian Education system for making me smarter than someone of an equivalent level from most other countries. But this is the same system that crushes wills and souls and drives people to despair, it's full of so much hypocrisy.
The only reason we suceed is by competing with others and ourselves ever since the very beginning.
You don't need a South Asian education to do that, and
Ravi.

Shove it.
Maybe what you say will be worth listening to once every indian citizen can claim to have a basic degree of knowledge.

to be wise you don't need education. That's why IITians aren't wise just like MITians and HARVARDians. And, being wise is the shortest distance to wisdom, which is a composite of knowledge and experience. knowledge is observation that repeats itself. and experience is a miscellaneous collection of mistakes. IITians just like Harvardians and MITians don't make enough mistakes because they don't try the untried. That's why it will be a few generations more before we will see Indian innovation. Until such time let's be grateful that HONDA or Toyota, hitherto a darling of management schools, is/are introducing WIPRO handbook of management into their production curriculum. i don't think an IITian verifies why there are sympathetic strings under the frets of a sitar or why one string produces frequency resonance in other strings by actually playing an instrument.

at one time 90% of the school budgets in india were devoted to urban schools. And 90% of the schools were in the villages. of course, these included schools conducted under the shade of a tree. late, great, napoleon-sized Prime Minister Lal Bahadur Shastri was a product of one such school from a village very close to the tree where Gautam Buddha was enlighened.

moral: indians are too educated for their intelligence to enjoy a physical life. let them embrace intelligence and free themselves of their education. Education is just a meal ticket. It doesn't save you from being mentally unemployed. Very few educated people have hobbies because all they think of is food, samosa, pakora, curd rice and dosa.


I hope that anyone willing to place the Indian school system on a pedestal sees Aamir Khan's new film, "Taare Zameen Par," a moving and powerful story of a young Mumbai boy with dyslexia.
This wonderful film shows the dark side of India's school system -- the overcrowding, the harshly regimented studies, the overcompetitive parents and the complete ignorance of how to deal with "differently abled" students.
I highly recommend it!

recomendatioins that demand millions of hours of collective time of the saja's web community will need more than your credentials to verify their power. you have to tell us who you are and why you are who you are instead of not being who you might have been. recommendation is serious business. treating the power of recommendation frivolously can earn your opinion regal disdain and you sure don't want that.

What I'd like to do is tie this article, and the letters especially to an earlier article and discussion involving Martha Nussbaum's take on Indian education. Of special relevance are the letters since one is from Howard Gardner, a noted and well respected authority in the field of education and cognitive science and known well for his path-breaking research into the nature of intelligence.

Martha claimed the Indian educational system was too "IIT"-like, i.e., technocentric and lacking the qualities the country needs more: e.g., the liberal arts, posing tough questions, debate, irreverence, etc. And Howard Gardner says the Indian education system has done well in those same areas (and of course, can do better.)

Howard speaks with knowledge about the subject. And as Prof Bhagwati in his respose to Martha's article said: Martha ought to stick to her own area of expertise (instead of making a fool of herself with her remarks on topics well outside her competency.)

What ever the status of higher edudation there is no looking back .it is the likes of that japanese mother who is so proud that her child has learnt by rote at the age of 5 how 12 X136 is. And it is mother like this who build pressure on a child and by the age of 15/16 when they have to appear for the Boards one witness innumerable no of suicides by school going children.So what is so great about such a system.
Where chilren do not want to even write their own essays and answers but want the teachers to dictate it so that they can go home and mug up the whole thing and reproduce it verbatim sown to the last comma and semi colon.

what is the use of such a system which demands that the child learn by rote only.It is amazing to see that children now want even the essays and letters that they have to write for the language paper dictated so that it can be mugged up and produced verbatim down to the last comma and semi colon.It is the likes of the proud japanese mother who are over expectant and push the child too much.Does she know that the sme system makes innumerable children commit suicide when they have to appear for the Higher secondary exam and for fear of failure and ridicule they take the inevitable course .

Well I think the level of education does not depend on which country you come from. But it is a known fact that only India had a university at Nalanda in the ancient times, the first of its kind.India has taught the whole world the true practice of learning.And I see no surprise whatsoever if Japan tries to learn from India.
And for those who think about the primary school education in India,its far much better then it used to be decades ago.Although we lost our essence
of learning which belonged to the ancient times, the seeds are still inherent in the culture.
And for those who think------"to be wise you don't need education. That's why IITians aren't wise just like MITians and HARVARDians. And, being wise is the shortest distance to wisdom, which is a composite of knowledge and experience. knowledge is observation that repeats itself. and experience is a miscellaneous collection of mistakes. IITians just like Harvardians and MITians don't make enough mistakes because they don't try the untried."
Well I have a straight answer,IIT ians dont have much options. They are not allowed to try, they are forced to succeed where there is no room for mistakes.Give then the resources and you will see who are more competitive.I am not justifying that Indians are more talented, atleast they are better than 'Calculator' based american students who struggle on the little machine for a two digit multiplication.

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